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Friday, October 12, 2007

Dreams and Reality

Dear Sensei,

now I am studying chapter 38 of Shobogenzo, “Preaching a Dream in a Dream (Muchu-setsumu). You told me already that this is a similar teaching as Freud found in psychology.
My questions are:

Q1) Sometimes our dreams transcend our “normal” consciousness that we have during the day, because then it is hindered by opinions, “allowed and not allowed” considerations, a lot of delusions etc. And by this we suffer. So in the dreams the reality could become free of that. Is this the teaching of Master Dogen?

Q2) Freud is saying that dreams are using something like a mask to tell the truth even in dreams. How can we get rid of these masks hiding the clear reality? Are the masks dependent of idealism and materialism? How is the situation in the Supreme Reality of Buddhism (4th. philosophy)?

Thank you very much for your effort and with best wishes
Yudo Juergen


Blogger Kurt said...

Dear Nishijima Roshi,

some weeks ago you explained that even in a dream one should be responsible for what one is dreaming. In my opinion that can only be managed under the suppostition that one clearly realizes at this very moment that one is dreaming. Did Dogen mean this state of mind?

Or did he mean that life is just a dream, beeing influenced by the Indian thought?

Thank you

5:35 AM, October 13, 2007  
Blogger GUDO NISHIJIMA said...

Dear zushi San,

My interpretation is that even a dream is also produced from our action, consideration, or perception in our daily life, and so it is necessary for us to be responsible for even a content of our dream.

Therefore in the case of Master Dogen, I think that the reason, why he thought for us to be responsible to our own dream, comes from the same reason, which I have.

Unfortunately I do not know the Indian thought on dream at all, and so it is impossible for me to have any kind of idea about it.

With best wishes Gudo Wafu

12:50 PM, October 13, 2007  

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