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Tuesday, August 18, 2009

[4] Evamination of Aggregates (9 verse)

MMK (4) Examination of Aggregates

1. When all things and phenomena, or material substances, are separated and at random,

Even the form of things and phenomena are not perceived actually.

And even though relying upon all things and phenomena, there is no separation and
freedom.

The oneness of all things and phenomena, or material substances, can be seen as they
are.


2. When all things and phenomena, or material substance, are separated and at random,

Relying upon all things and phenomena, and attached to all things and phenomena,

What is not reasonable, does never exist as aim,

But at the same time something unreasonable might exists somewhere.


3. Relying upon all things and phenomena, it is situations of freedom now,

And then it might be oneness between all things and phenomena, or material existence.

What is in an impossible situation to do, might be what can not be done actually,

And both what can not be done actually, or what might be only material, do not actually
exist.

4. Because of being in all things and phenomena, they belong just to all things and
phenomena.

Material existence does not manifest itself.

Even when all things and phenomena do not exist in all things and phenomena,

Material existence does not manifest itself.


5. The facts that what does not have any cause produces any kinds of things and
phenomena again,

Do never, never, manifest themselves at all.

Therefore all things and phenomena have been produced a little bit already,

And so there is no possibility to be replaced with another contents, or to be desired
to be replaced with others.


6. It is not imitation of material stuff,

But it is just the work, which has been actually created.

It is not purely material substance itself,

But it is just the work, which has been actually created.


7. Mental function to get something is always mutual understandings.

It is always an effort to include everything into one perfectly.
Therefore the all kinds of researches are just belonging to miscellaneous existences,

And just relying upon all things and phenomena, everything is going on ahead.


8. Everything, which is scattered separately at random, is prone to be avoided,

And the creations of the balanced and quiet states, might be talked.

Everything is belonging to the real world, which is not avoided from everything,

And everything is born relying upon the regulated conditions.


9. With miscellaneous explanations in detail, many kinds of defaults have been indicated
and explained,

And the creations of the balanced state in the autonomic nervous system, might
be talked.

Everything, which belongs to reality, does not have any default to be criticized,

Therefore everything has been born similarly being in well-regulated situations actually.

15 Comments:

Blogger Al said...

Roshi,

In a situation where a person has an extremely overactive SNS, do you think it may be necessary for a period of time(say a few months)to practice Zazen more frequently than two times per day?

Regards,

Al

8:46 PM, August 18, 2009  
Blogger GUDO NISHIJIMA said...

Dear Ven. Al San,

We, human beings, do not have any ability to control our ANS by our human mental ability, but by our Action we can make our ANS balanced.

Therefore if we want to make our ANS balanced, it is necessary for us to Act.

For example to take a walk, to enjoy a sport, to enjoy a drama, and so on.

Therefore Gautama Buddha taught us to practice Zazen.

Zazen can never be consideration or perception, but it is Action itself, or sitting itself.

By regulating our posture we should keep our body and mind in Action, in other words, we should keep our spine straight virtically.

No consideration, no perception, but just keeping our spine straight virtically is Zazen. Therefore Zazen is a kind of sport without motion.

3:11 AM, August 19, 2009  
Blogger Harry said...

Dear Roshi,

If we do not have any mental ability to control our ANS, why did Dogen Zenji and earlier Masters refer to the action of Zazen as 'sitting non-thinking'?

Why would Dogen Zenji feel the need to direct us towards 'non-thinking' as opposed just 'not thinking' if there was no mental effort involved?

Regards & thanks,

Harry.

8:40 AM, August 19, 2009  
Blogger GUDO NISHIJIMA said...

Dear Ven. Harry San,

The reason, why Master Dogen recommended us to practice Zazen, comes from that Master Dogen wanted people to enter into the Area of Action.

Because when we are acting, we can enter into the state of the balanced ANS, and then we can enter into the same state between SNS and PNS. And this is the best situations of human conditions.

Therefore Gautama Buddha recommended us to keep the ANS balanced, because the balanced state of ANS is the best condition of human beings.

And to keep our ANS balanced, Gautama Buddha recommended us to practice Zazen everyday.

1:30 PM, August 19, 2009  
Blogger Rich said...

AS an athlete I would say that the action is a total effort of body and mind. Is that why Dogen said that 'the action of Zazen is 'sitting non-thinking'?

7:40 PM, August 19, 2009  
Blogger GUDO NISHIJIMA said...

Dear Ven. Rich San,

As an athlete, what you have written has hit the target.

Gautama Buddha has found the philosophy of Action for the first tme in human history.

Therefore Master Dogen said that the action of Zazen is sitting non thinking.

9:27 AM, August 20, 2009  
Blogger Harry said...

Dear Roshi,

Thank-you for these answers.

In parts of Shobogenzo Master Dogen seems to suggest that we should investigate the balanced state of zazen itself. What do you think about these instructions?

Doesn't this suggest that Master Dogen felt that the action of 'sitting/non-thinking' has some active and substantial inquisitive potential?

Regards,

Harry.

10:25 AM, August 20, 2009  
Blogger Rich said...

Dear Roshi,
Thank you for explaining that.
Regards,
Rich

2:45 AM, August 21, 2009  
Blogger GUDO NISHIJIMA said...

Dear Ven. Harry San,

The reason why Master Dogen says that we should check whether we are not thinking or feeling in during Zazen, suggests that if we notice that we are thinking or feeling, we should stop our thinking or feeling at once.

The state of Zazen is never thinking or feeling, but sitting without thinking or without feeling.

Therefore when we notice that we are thinking or feeling, we should stop thinking or feeling at once.


Dear Ven. Rich San,

Therefore during Zazen we should be careful about our posture so much.

4:32 PM, August 21, 2009  
Blogger Rich said...

Dear Roshi,
Yes, thank you for reminding me, I am trying to be more careful of my posture all the time and stopping thinking and feeling during zazen.

Regards,
Rich

7:49 AM, August 22, 2009  
Blogger GUDO NISHIJIMA said...

Dear Ven. Rich San,

Thank you very much for your clear and exact understandings.

Zazen is never any kind of consideration or perception, but Zazen is a kind of gymnastics without motion.

4:50 PM, August 22, 2009  
Blogger skatemurai said...

Dear Roshi,

I want to ask this question: What attitude to pain is best for us? I mean for example someone maybe gotta go to teeth-surgery, and it's not so pleasurable... so what can I do in this situation?

Thanks ...

Tom

1:01 AM, August 28, 2009  
Blogger GUDO NISHIJIMA said...

Dear Ven. skatemurai San,

Thank you for your question.

I think that you have a chance to prefer your favorite one between the two.

The one is for you to go to a dentist, and the other is to endure your pain.

You are the Emperor of the Universe, and so you can decide your own decision by your self.

8:47 AM, August 28, 2009  
Blogger skatemurai said...

Dear Roshi,

Thank you for your straight answer.

I just want to ask this: One week I spend moment by moment, but then something happen and I'm lose in past or future (or just in my desires) for another week. I think about it, and result is that I've just lose my attention and doesn't think that I can change it. Is it right?

So, only thing that I have to do is just don't lose attention?

Like Master Kodo Sawaki said:
"Sooner or later everyone starts thinking of nothing besides themselves. You say, “That was good!” But what was good? It was only good for you personally, that’s all.
Illusion means being unstable. Illusion means being controlled by the situation. Person with big desires is easily fooled.
Buddhism means no self, nothing to gain. You must be one with the universe and all living beings."

So be one with the universe means don't lose attention for NOW (however is situation good or bad)? Or what Master Sawaki means by that?

Thank you very much.
Greets from Czech Republic

Tom

9:08 PM, August 28, 2009  
Blogger GUDO NISHIJIMA said...

Dear Ven. skatemurai San,

Thank you very much for your questions, which belong to your consideration, and I would like to answer your question, from the basis of Philosophy of Action.

Therefore I should say that "Why don't you continue forgetting past and future. I think that the past is just a memory,and the future is just a supposition, and so both memory and supposition can never be Reality.

What Master Kodo Sawaki said is that "Stop thinking and feeling, but keep the spine straight vertically."

The reason why I have said "good!" suggests that it is very nice that you have begun to live in a life of Action.

Buddhism is never "no self, or nothing to gain," but Buddhism is just to become "Human Beings" themselves.

11:15 AM, August 29, 2009  

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