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Friday, February 8, 2008

Makahannya haramitsu

Dear Nishijima Roshi,

Thank you for this wonderful blog opportunity.

Reading the second chapter in Shobogenzo I would like to ask you for further explanation of the poem of master Tendo Nyojo about the windbell. Do I understand it right that the wind of the four directions have nothing to do with the ringing of the bell? Does it mean the bell would ring anyway or the bell is not influenced by wind that might blow somewhere?

And after the mentioning of the four dhyanas there are listed four states of balance (shi mushiki jo). Would you explain these, please?

Thank you in advance and best regards


Blogger GUDO NISHIJIMA said...

Dear Zushi San,

Thank you very much for your questions.

I think that when we think about the meaning of Master Tendo Nyojo's poem, it may be better for us to understand the poem separately from the next paragraph, in which Gautama Buddha explains that Buddha is the intuitive ability, and the intuitive ability is just Buddha.

Master Tendo Nyojo describes that the situation of a windbell suggests the reality itself.

And Gautama Buddha says that the intuition is Buddha, and Buddha is the intuition.

With best wishes

Gudo Wafu Nishijima

6:39 PM, February 09, 2008  
Blogger Zushi said...

Dear Nishjima Roshi,

Thank you for your answer.

If I understand the poem separately from the following paragraph there are further questions arising:
- doesn't a bell need the wind to ring?
- doesn't intuition need something before, will or decision, and something afterwards like acting to unfold and manifest as intuition?
How else could we realize the unfolding of intuition?

And finally isn't this acting (out of intuition)at the very moment not just the ringing of the bell?

From experience I realized that first I always have to make a decision and then intuition out of subconsciousnes/sunyata/balanced state of mind is leading the action to accomplish the realization.

Best regards

1:15 AM, February 10, 2008  

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